I don't seem to be able to avoid annoying you, sorry. Not intentional.

Penny, you do not annoy me at all. We just have very different styles of communicating and when I answer a post like yours as I did, I am merely speaking my truth or how it is that I see things. I am not annoyed nor am I criticizing you.

Of course I admire many of the same people you do, but what I admire is NOT there spirituality nor their contemplation, nor their time spent in prayer etc. I admire their works and their actions.