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by Doulos
Sat May 26, 2012 12:04 pm
Forum: Religion & Philosophy
Topic: Did Jesus Exist - Bart Ehrman's new book
Replies: 271
Views: 118770

Re: Did Jesus Exist - Bart Ehrman's new book

Hello Tat, A pleasure to meet you as well. I'm afraid my reply will have to be very brief, as I'm just preparing to run out of the house. My daughters have multiple birthday parties today. It is hard being the father of young socialites. 8) I think the historical reality of a Jewish rabbi and 'mirac...
by Doulos
Sat May 26, 2012 7:33 am
Forum: Religion & Philosophy
Topic: Did Jesus Exist - Bart Ehrman's new book
Replies: 271
Views: 118770

Re: Did Jesus Exist - Bart Ehrman's new book

My point didn't have to do with correct historical facts. Whatever the facts were, they don't matter when we're looking at the effect of a book. If "Jews" was not a blanket term for a guilty party in the supposed historical context, it certainly became that within a relatively short time ...
by Doulos
Sat May 26, 2012 7:29 am
Forum: Religion & Philosophy
Topic: Prominent Scientists and their religiosity
Replies: 272
Views: 81076

Re: Prominent Scientists and their religiosity

This talk of formal logic is an unnecessary distraction. The bottom line is, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I don't care what kind of reasoning you use, everyone agrees with that or you would not be able to function in the world -- if someone tells you gravity just reversed it...
by Doulos
Sat May 26, 2012 7:26 am
Forum: Religion & Philosophy
Topic: Prominent Scientists and their religiosity
Replies: 272
Views: 81076

Re: Prominent Scientists and their religiosity

If during the course of your reasoning to support the bible, you commit a fallacy, would you ignore it? Logic doesn't apply everywhere, but it applies in many places, including attempts to support the bible. Not in all attempts, but in some. If you use reasoning that is known to lead to a false or ...
by Doulos
Fri May 25, 2012 10:19 pm
Forum: Religion & Philosophy
Topic: Did Jesus Exist - Bart Ehrman's new book
Replies: 271
Views: 118770

Re: Did Jesus Exist - Bart Ehrman's new book

This "Errorman" ordeal has worked out pretty good because it brought the existence of the argument to a much larger audience. The backlash from the book (much of it listed in my last post) has shown this newer, larger audience out there, the thin line historicists have to walk on. And of ...
by Doulos
Fri May 25, 2012 9:16 pm
Forum: Religion & Philosophy
Topic: Prominent Scientists and their religiosity
Replies: 272
Views: 81076

Re: Prominent Scientists and their religiosity

@ Robert Tulip I would hope that I've informed as well as entertained. :) You do a nice summary of some of the tangible benefits of Christianity. While I would in large part agree with you, this does not take us away from the core issue. Are the claims of Christianity true? In part, I'm referring to...
by Doulos
Fri May 25, 2012 9:04 pm
Forum: Religion & Philosophy
Topic: Prominent Scientists and their religiosity
Replies: 272
Views: 81076

Re: Prominent Scientists and their religiosity

Are you sure? Could the reason for the strong convictions not be that they are fabricated to gain further believers? Are you sure you're even reading the testimony of the supposed witnesses? If so, are you sure they weren't tampered with to increase believability in the story? Can a person not fake...
by Doulos
Fri May 25, 2012 8:12 pm
Forum: Religion & Philosophy
Topic: Prominent Scientists and their religiosity
Replies: 272
Views: 81076

Re: Prominent Scientists and their religiosity

I'd think a lot of juries decide on a whim, without any logic, or even relying upon contradictions! Do you think the victim in such a trial is fairly judged? Would you agree with the jury even if they based their decision on a contradiction? This is an honest question. It is a very honest question,...
by Doulos
Fri May 25, 2012 8:06 pm
Forum: Religion & Philosophy
Topic: Prominent Scientists and their religiosity
Replies: 272
Views: 81076

Re: Prominent Scientists and their religiosity

For understanding the story you're right. That's a necessary wisdom, I think, in studying the bible. What are you wanting us to focus on? I've been focusing on whether or not the story is true. I would like to know that at some point. I've studied the storyline when I was younger, and some recently...
by Doulos
Fri May 25, 2012 7:54 pm
Forum: Religion & Philosophy
Topic: Prominent Scientists and their religiosity
Replies: 272
Views: 81076

Re: Prominent Scientists and their religiosity

Overly bound? If so, then only by necessity. But I'm not too much of a logistician. More of a philosopher in general. I enjoy informal logic more, or at least what I understand of it. Here is a link to informal fallacies that are fun to play around with. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fa ... ...

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