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- Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:05 am
- Forum: Religion & Philosophy
- Topic: Prominent Scientists and their religiosity
- Replies: 272
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Re: Prominent Scientists and their religiosity
You admit you have no way to show that supernatural events aren't fictional, yet still claim they are not fiction. Explain where I misunderstand. When I use the word fiction, I'm not merely speaking of fiction novels, I'm speaking of anything that's false. It's one of the connotations of the defini...
- Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:01 pm
- Forum: Religion & Philosophy
- Topic: Prominent Scientists and their religiosity
- Replies: 272
- Views: 81180
Re: Prominent Scientists and their religiosity
What exactly is your source for your statement that "science considers that all supernatural claims are wrong, mendacious or symbolic?" It is a fairly straightforward reading of the scientific enlightenment tradition from Voltaire through to Dawkins. Scientific enlightenment is grounded i...
- Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:57 pm
- Forum: Religion & Philosophy
- Topic: Prominent Scientists and their religiosity
- Replies: 272
- Views: 81180
Re: Prominent Scientists and their religiosity
Here are some scientists talking about god, and other stuff. Funny story at 1:22. Haha! Thanks Johnson :) Some interesting comments from this: "I've met scientists who are fundamentalist Christian physicists, there are staunch Atheist physicists. I would say the staunch Atheists are probably i...
- Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:46 am
- Forum: Religion & Philosophy
- Topic: Prominent Scientists and their religiosity
- Replies: 272
- Views: 81180
Re: Prominent Scientists and their religiosity
Thank you for such a straightforward reply. You don't think, though, that your epiphany (you say it was a sudden thing) had to do with a strong yearning for identity? That is my current take on religion as well as other areas of group-ness, that we in general have a powerful need for identity, maki...
- Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:30 am
- Forum: Religion & Philosophy
- Topic: Prominent Scientists and their religiosity
- Replies: 272
- Views: 81180
Re: Prominent Scientists and their religiosity
The scientific critique of the supernatural is not circular. There are four possible sources for supernatural claims, truth, error, mendacity and symbolism. Supernatural claims are continually made. On examination, there has never been any evidence for their truth. Therefore science considers that ...
- Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:25 am
- Forum: Religion & Philosophy
- Topic: Prominent Scientists and their religiosity
- Replies: 272
- Views: 81180
Re: Prominent Scientists and their religiosity
My own approach to Theology is not so much assumed falsehood, but rather assumed neutrality (as much as is humanly possible), and to weigh things fairly. This weighing is obviously affected by what I already have accepted as true though, just as it would be for all people. I would seek to test what...
- Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:07 am
- Forum: Religion & Philosophy
- Topic: Did Jesus Exist - Bart Ehrman's new book
- Replies: 271
- Views: 118876
Re: Did Jesus Exist - Bart Ehrman's new book
Hi Robert, That ignores the comple backdrop of economic and social relations between Christians and Jews. It is rather like saying the Protestants and Catholics of Northern Ireland have hated each other because of specifically religious differences, when it is obvious these differences are primaril...
- Fri Jun 01, 2012 5:51 am
- Forum: Religion & Philosophy
- Topic: Prominent Scientists and their religiosity
- Replies: 272
- Views: 81180
Re: Prominent Scientists and their religiosity
Science cannot test that which has no properties. If something has no properties, there is nothing to say about it. The claims of religions about god do grant, or imply, properties about god. Those properties can be tested, and when they are, they do not prove to be the product of god, but instead ...
- Fri Jun 01, 2012 5:30 am
- Forum: Religion & Philosophy
- Topic: Prominent Scientists and their religiosity
- Replies: 272
- Views: 81180
Re: Prominent Scientists and their religiosity
Some simple guidelines would be to address the idea, and not the person, and to endeavor to deal with the real substance of their arguments. I'm saying a) that you write like a teen who has been watching too much tv dude :D :lol: PS: no i like you Doulos, i really do, it's just that i find literali...
- Fri Jun 01, 2012 5:22 am
- Forum: Religion & Philosophy
- Topic: Prominent Scientists and their religiosity
- Replies: 272
- Views: 81180
Re: Prominent Scientists and their religiosity
I do agree that there is an assumed superiority to scientific evidence. In fields where empirical testing is possible, I think this is largely justified. In fields like theology however... So in fields like theology, how do you evaluate every religious claim in history that contradicts the one you ...