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sonoman wrote:As for this Sam Harris, who's that to me?
oh we probably just mentioned him as an example of a "prominent" atheist who is quite open to and interested in the multitude of "spiritual experiences" people have reported over the years. Just goes to show that not all atheists are dismissive of experiences but many probably see them as subjective more than objective.
sonoman wrote:My same criticism applies to him: no experience in the subject matter he's claiming expertise in.
no, he's not claiming expertise, he just said he is interested and thinks there may be something worth looking into there.
sonoman wrote:Those spiritually awake will hear the new Christ Aquarian Call.
damn, i must have nodded off :D

i'm hearing music from the 5th dimension!!

sorry sonoman but i dont really see why it should matter if people dont accept your message.
why can't we all just chill and enjoy the ride.
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I picked up this book enthusiastically a few years ago.

The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ

Unfortunately I found it was just Edgar Cayce-style imaginative 'channeling' of so-called Akashic Records. Quite bereft of facts. Like Scientology and Mormonism. Stick to facts.
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sonoman wrote:I can't help you if can't see the Humanitarian Model theology passed along via the evolving astrological data storage of the Humanitarian Model in the Sign of Aquarius, the "Man" Face in the Zodiac who has the spiritually alive Living Waters to aid and benefit humanity...
If you're going to keep spewing this stuff as part of your posts, please be concise. No one is going to read all of it.
So, I am expecting answers how a species that successfully deals with all environmental conditions to arrive at the top of the food chain gets a brain that is "delusional",
Because believing the gibberish above does not affect your ability to navigate reality. The people who believe they can fly are in fact weeded out by evolution.

You do acknowledge that there have been thousands of religions that are all false, don't you? So how did those people ever survive with all those false beliefs? Because they are basically costless beliefs.
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Dexter wrote:The people who believe they can fly are in fact weeded out by evolution.
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Interbane wrote:
Still waiting for logic to be shown here.
There are 3 instances of logic in my posts alone. Perhaps the issue is that you're not adept at recognizing logic?
Where are the atheist answers to my challenge questions? You haven't addressed them. Until you or any atheists here provide answers to these basic challenge questions, here they are spelled out again, so you won't be fudging with diversionary slander and other side issues, 1) explain how human beings as the successful top species in the food chain, successfully meeting every environmental challenge which means each evolutionary advance has been successful, come to have their brains hardwired to receive and process spiritual phenomena if spiritual phenomena is non-existent? 2) explain why there is at least 40,000 years of human beings paying great amounts of attention to these same supposedly non-existent forces if it is a delusional state of mind shared by the vast majority of human beings still today? We lock up mentally disturbed people precisely because they can't deal effectively with reality. You all really want to paint me and theists as mentally disturbed people and yet we are the great majority of humankind, in the ancient past, in the recent past, and even now, with religious fervor showing no signs of universal discontinuity, only the historic pattern of organizational decay that happens to every civilization's products, including religions--because spiritual knowledge, just like science knowledge, changes and increases over time with the accumulation of knowledge, i.e., a evolving paradigm matching human social evolution. Which brings me to 3) Answer why any rational person would accept atheists answers to the question of God and the existence of spiritual reality when science is still virtually in its infancy stage of knowledge of the way the universe works, i.e., it's illogical to make judgments on phenomena that is opaque to us now, just like electricity, light waves and evolutionary examples were a hundred years ago and magnetism still is, when future knowledge may reveal how spiritual energy operates when it comes into a human brain. Atheists do not pay attention to the logic of history which says what we know now at 2013 will most likely be amusing to people in 3013 and utterly laughable to people in 6013 as they study the mores of ancient 21st century Earthlings. But you know what? If they don't recognize the Humanitarian Model by these future dates it's not likely humanity will be around because that's what it will take to solve world problems brought about by humankind. And now, thanks to Celestial Torah Christianity information, you know that the Humanitarian Model with its "One Way" connectors to Archetypes of "Father" and "Son", Saturn and Aquarius, is meant to guide humanity to the Humanitarian Model.
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Robert Tulip wrote:I picked up this book enthusiastically a few years ago.

The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ

Unfortunately I found it was just Edgar Cayce-style imaginative 'channeling' of so-called Akashic Records. Quite bereft of facts. Like Scientology and Mormonism. Stick to facts.
Yeah, it's rehashed theosophized Christianity. The author's not Jewish, probably not even an Aquarian because there's nothing radically different in it. The same criticism I have of all attempts to capture Christ by Hindus or Buddhist Western enthusiasts, doesn't ring true to the historic pattern of exclusiveness of the Jewish monopoly on God.

Actually Acharya and all mythicists trying to paint Jesus Christ as a sun god make the same error. If Christ were a Jewish sun god, because Egypt plays such an important religious influence on Judaism and thus Christianity, Christ's name would another Lazarus derivative, an "Eleazar" showing the connection to the Egyptian dying/resurrection sun god, Osiris. But Jesus Christ is in the Saturn, EL Elyon, tradition, because that's where the Aquarian Humanitarian Model is being developed. "One Way", and the real meaning of the Celestial Torah is to keep this Humanitarian Model uppermost in human minds which explains why the Jews accepted the fierce protectiveness of the Taurowet tradition while they rejected the astrological tradition because they couldn't compete with Egypt's astrological technology-so they decried Signs and images of God to go for the Word of God that they could control because they wrote it. And this is why Celestial Torah Christianity is so unique now. No religion, no nation, no ethnic group on earth can claim it. Not even yours truly here who rediscovered it through revelation at first then God-guided research and pass the information I've found along to future generations which will be able to receive it as for our times, only those who hear the Christ Aquarian Call will receive this new yet ancient form of Christianity.
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You're literally nuts.
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Sonoman, you say that god guided your research.

What does that mean to you exactly?

Your research has led you down certain paths of discovery, and that was good, and therefore godly, or guided by god?

God set you some homework assignments, "read chapters 1-70 over the weekend"?

Do you hear voices? Or are you just inexplicably inspired and intuitive?

I should say if you've got an actual dialogue going with god, why don't you try to get him in the game a little bit? Tell him to reveal himself. Tell him to talk to everybody, and not just special people like yourself.

Ask him, for me, why he's so damned concerned that you get this business right about pitchers of water, or whatever, and doesn't lay into you with some serious change-the-world with free energy, or anti-starvation pill revelation?
In the absence of God, I found Man.
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Are you pushing your own short comings on us and safely hating them from a distance?

Is this the virtue of faith? To never change your mind: especially when you should?

Young Earth Creationists take offense at the idea that we have a common heritage with other animals. Why is being the descendant of a mud golem any better?
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johnson1010 wrote:Ask him, for me, why he's so damned concerned that you get this business right about pitchers of water, or whatever, and doesn't lay into you with some serious change-the-world with free energy, or anti-starvation pill revelation?
And for me, Sonoman, ask God during your next conversation why he cares about pitchers of water and not the 20 children that were executed point blank by Adam Lanza recently. In my opinion this God of yours is a heartless prick if he spends his time talking to people like you instead of actually preventing the daily barbaric acts that happen throughout the world. Imagine the terror those teachers and children experienced as they waited their turn to be shot. If God can talk to you I have to believe he can step in when he is needed elsewhere. But no, your God was busy with his astrological lesson when Adam forced his way into the school and started to fire his gun.
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These are exactly the issues presented in the book The Man Who Was Thursday.

It is a cop-out to blame God for the Adam Lanzas unless you are willing to give up free will.
Do you really want God to eradicate all evil?
Should He use His definition of evil? Of course He must.
If so, then no human will be left.
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