sonoman wrote:Interbane wrote:I was hoping to refrain from saying this. Stephen, the THC is getting to you. You are truly delusional. I've shown how your points are irrefutably fallacious, but you bludgeon onward oblivious to it.
To everyone else, I'm done feeding the troll.
That's all you got, isn't it, Interbane, slander, name-calling, no answers childish name-calling and when pushed for something substantial, all you do is cut-and-paste reliance on atheist propaganda sites, no answers in your own words on your own steam. And NO ANSWERS to my questions starting with the one posted above that I've posted again and again on this thread that you and all atheists continue to dodge. Give your answers to them or admit you don't have any. Or do what you're doing--the childish response, "I'm picking up my marbles and going home because I don't like the way Sonoman plays in our atheist game."
I've been ignoring this conversation, but I'd be interested in hearing about what the astrotheist belief system—if that's a fair description—has yielded in terms of real world knowledge. Science, for example, has yielded a vaccine against polio, and this can be independently verified, no matter what your belief system is. Even someone who rejects science altogether can be inoculated against polio. So that's what I mean by real world results.
I would argue that the concept of the Holy Trinity is not "real world" because it is meaningless to anyone outside the belief system. There's no kind of evidence to support the existence of a Holy Trinity, thus it cannot be falsified. It's merely something that theologians came up with to rationalize a larger Christian belief system that provides all its context. To anyone outside those beliefs, it sounds like gibberish.
Likewise, your astrotheism beliefs are
subjectively meaningful for you, Sonoman, and to others who share your beliefs, but they do not have any
objective meaning as science does. The objective value of science is proven again and again, in medicine and technology and in our understanding of the physical world. But your esoteric beliefs are only meaningful to you.
Do you understand the distinction I'm making? And, if you disagree, can you share something that can be shown as true or relevant to those outside your belief system? I'd be very interested in hearing about it.