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The Stillborn God: Religion, Politics, and the Modern West

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The Stillborn God: Religion, Politics, and the Modern West

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I posted this in Mad's "Secular Age" thread and realized I should have posted it on it's own. SO here it is:

This book popped up as an "Other Interest" when I was looking at the book Mad posted about. Seemed interesting.

The Stillborn God: Religion, Politics, and the Modern West

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Starred Review. This searching history of western thinking about the relationship between religion and politics was inspired not by 9/11, but by Nazi Germany, where, says University of Chicago professor Lilla (The Reckless Mind), politics and religion were horrifyingly intertwined. To explain the emergence of Nazism's political theology, Lilla reaches back to the early modern era, when thinkers like Locke and Hume began to suggest that religion and politics should be separate enterprises. Some theorists, convinced that Christianity bred violence, argued that government must be totally detached from religion. Others, who believed that rightly practiced religion could contribute to modern life, promoted a liberal theology, which sought to articulate Christianity and Judaism in the idiom of reason. (Lilla's reading of liberal Jewish thinker Hermann Cohen is especially arresting.) Liberal theologians, Lilla says, credulously assumed human society was progressive and never dreamed that fanaticism could capture the imaginations of modern people-assumptions that were proven wrong by Hitler. If Lilla castigates liberal theology for its naïveté, he also praises America and Western Europe for simultaneously separating religion from politics, creating space for religion, and staving off sectarian violence and theocracy. Lilla's work, which will influence discussions of politics and theology for the next generation, makes clear how remarkable an accomplishment that is. (Sept. 14)
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Mr.P., as I recall, Mad mentioned this book before, also. Though it might have been a couple months ago, at this point. I think he referenced an article about the book and suggested that we pick up Hobbes and Rousseau and read them both to do a similar comparison to the one Lilla writes about. I had seriously considered it at the time. But he was looking at Leviathan and Emile and they weren't really texts I was interested in exploring then. But, for a few months now, possibly since Mad's suggestion, I've been giving some thought into really diving into the Enlightenment thinkers. Anyway, I'm sure the thread was in Belief and Philosophy, though I really can't remember how long ago, at least two months I'd say.
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Probably a month and a half, give or take. I brought it up in reference to an article Lilla had adapted from "The Stillborn God" for the NYTimes Sunday Magazine insert. As I recall, it didn't get much interest at the time, though I'd still be willing to read "The Stillborn God". And I've still got both Leviathan and Emile in my to-read stack, although, if we're going to read an Enlightenment book as a group -- and given how strongly opinions around BookTalk are indirectly influenced by Enlightenment thought -- we might do better to choose something a little more concise.
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I think I would be interested in reading and discussing The Stillborn God if we settle on it as a future pick. I'm sure sure it meets Chris's "best seller" criteria for being one of the formal picks, but we could certainly do it as an alternative.

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