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Star, this is a nice little poem about the Noah’s ark story that I read once…
Innocent Puppies and kittens, babies and women…

The tall giraffes and the tiny ants that crawl…

All of the animals big and small… your lord god murdered them all.


What a nice god you worship.

My morality is better than what is shown of god's in the bible… what does that say about your god?

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Please be more careful in your replies, I did not say the first commandment, I said the greatest commandment.

Matthew 22:36-40 (New International Version)
36"Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?" 37Jesus replied: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'[a] 38This is the first and greatest commandment. 39And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' 40All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."


First of all the greatest commandment even according to what you have just supplied is not “love thy neighbor” but (of course) “love god”… why am I not surprised? :hmm:

The god character is a narcissistic, insane, murderous, whack job… is that what you worship?

Besides, I addressed your explanation before you responded… you should read the posts more carefully… if you want to set Jesus’ teachings above those of the Old Testament then you need to explain why those teachings are more significant…

Because the teachings of Jesus are not even commandments, nor did he say that they replace the commandments of old or should be added to them.

So I do not see why those stories and teachings should come before what god himself handed to Moses… god is perfect… remember?

In addition, the Jesus character himself said that he was not on earth to change the old laws.

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Frank 013 wrote:Star, this is a nice little poem about the Noah’s ark story that I read once…
Innocent Puppies and kittens, babies and women…

The tall giraffes and the tiny ants that crawl…

All of the animals big and small… your lord god murdered them all.


What a nice god you worship.

My morality is better than what is shown of god's in the bible… what does that say about your god?

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Stahrwe, rather a poorly constructeed poem and it is incorrect in its statement. God did not murder them all. He murdered almost all. Almost all does ot equal all.

You state: "My morality is better than what is shown of god's in the bible..."

What is your morality?

What gods are you referring to? Molech, Baal, there are many gods "in the Bible"?

Please try to be more precise in your poetry and statements.

thank you.
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stahrwe, you can create a new thread in any forum yourself. As far as creating new forums goes...only I can do that. And we don't create new forums unless the community voted on a book and a large group of people want to participate.

If you would like to discuss a fiction book you can create a new thread in the "Additional Fiction Book Discussions" forum using the book title in the title of the thread.
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rather a poorly constructed poem and it is incorrect in its statement. God did not murder them all. He murdered almost all. Almost all does not equal all.


First of all I did not write the poem, I just posted it here for everyone’s enjoyment, which I insinuated when I mentioned that I read it once…… Secondly, murdering "almost all" life, billions of innocent animals and people, is still psychopathic and evil which is the point of the poem, just because a few were spared does not change that fact.

Saving a few is not an act of true compassion, especially for an all powerful god being. When god let a few go it was apparently only so he would have more creatures to lay his torment upon.
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You state: "My morality is better than what is shown of god’s in the bible..."

What is your morality?

What gods are you referring to? Molech, Baal, there are many gods "in the Bible"?

Please try to be more precise in your poetry and statements.


Hmmm… could it be that I meant your god? Possibly the god that the bible is dedicated too?

You know the one we were talking about…

It seemed so obvious to me… apparently I did not properly gage your density level, so for that I do apologize.

I do not feel it necessary to explain my morality… suffice it to say that I do not condone bigotry towards gays, other religions or pagan “witchcraft”, rape, murder, mass murder, the killing of innocent animals, genocide, slavery, or tormenting the innocent... or ordering these actions for others to perform on your behalf… I do not tolerate these actions, not even from a supposed god… and I certainly would not worship such a being if he did indeed exist.
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Please do.

I am always interested in clarified positions.
I am interested as well, but I suspect that any apologetics will be woefully substandard to anyone with a rational mind. The use of the words possibly and probably will likely be used throughout the text with no rationalization as to how "possible" that something may logically be.

It will, in effect be the same crap that we always see…

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Frank 013 wrote:The god character is a narcissistic, insane, murderous, whack job…
But, as George Carlin points out, he loves you!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWjs3diATjQ
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I love Carlin... I saw that routine on HBO one night… so true! :laugh:
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Carlin was excellent.

We need him and others like him.
In the absence of God, I found Man.
-Guillermo Del Torro

Are you pushing your own short comings on us and safely hating them from a distance?

Is this the virtue of faith? To never change your mind: especially when you should?

Young Earth Creationists take offense at the idea that we have a common heritage with other animals. Why is being the descendant of a mud golem any better?
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Chris,

so why don't we have a discussion of the Bible? Several people have challenged me to refute or respond to numerous inconsistencies and problematic verses. So why not bite the bullet and tackle the whole Bible?
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Make a suggestion for it in the fiction section Star, I'm sure it will get some votes.
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