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Anti-Christian Bias in American Society

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Grim: "Yes, and in this arguement are the dissenting atheists any better than the religious believer, merely lower themselves to the level where an arugment is validated in some way by opinion?"

I'm sure some atheists believe without using critical thinking skills, as do a certain number from any belief. The atheistic stance, however, doesn't need an argument. It is more by default, as Chris says.
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However; the dispostional belief you mention, correctly, suggests a strong correlation to the feelings of certainty - a decidedly equally unreasonable functioning of the healthy human brain than belief. Certainty to a degree which is required for evolution (haha I kid)!! Seriously though I think one of Robert Burtons main points was that feelings of the dispositional belief variety are required for normal functioning in a world where our understanding of the surroundings is less than perfect. It was also interesting that you mentioned belief being grounded in a reality that is not based on critical thinking and is irrational, or non-scientific if you will. An interesting stipulation that alludes to the need for certainty.

Perhaps those who argue loudest against, or in favour of religion require a certainty they nuerologically are lacking? Evolutionarly speaking of course (zing)!!

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I think we need certainty, or at least the option of summarization that it gives us. We can't be uncertain of everything, or we'd have so many loose ends and unanswered questions we'd go insane. These dispositional beliefs, keep in mind, are beliefs we aren't aware of, or haven't focused our mind's eye on for analytical due diligence.
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And so we come to see evolution as the literary crutch it is.

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Hrm? What's the relation to evolution from certainty you're seeing? The certainty dialogue seemed tangential.


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Sorry, I am one to traverse explainations, or topics incessantly.

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Traversing from evolution to certainty lead you to the conclusion that evolution is a literary crutch? Where along the trek did you make that connection?

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