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The Top 500 Poems: 400-301

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I agree, BE, it's a beautiful thing the poet does with must have appeared to him in a momentary flash--the impression of flapping laundry as flying angels. This is almost "metaphysical" in the manner of Donne, when a single metaphor is elaborated through an entire poem, but the effect here is a lot less chilly, more human, than in most of Donne.

I'm glad you see a trend toward improvement in the 500. I don't know that I would declare victory yet, though. There are bound to be a number of clunkers yet to come :(

335. "We Real Cool," by Gwendolyn Brooks. This one will win for fewest words in a poem in the top 500.

THE POOL PLAYERS.
SEVEN AT THE GOLDEN SHOVEL.

We real cool. We
Left school. We

Lurk late. We
Strike straight. We

Sing sin. We
Thin gin. We

Jazz June. We
Die soon.

334. "Not Waving But Drowning," by Stevie Smith

Nobody heard him, the dead man,
But still he lay moaning:
I was much further out than you thought
And not waving but drowning.

Poor chap, he always loved larking
And now he's dead
It must have been too cold for him his heart gave way,
They said.

Oh, no no no, it was too cold always
(Still the dead one lay moaning)
I was much too far out all my life
And not waving but drowning.
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I always liked that Gwendolyn Brooks one. I think everyone has a time in their life when they lived like that, so they can relate, and the brevity of the lines and choppy movement also mimics the quickness and "do or die" attitude with which that kind of life happens and then is suddenly gone, for whatever reason. Brooks is another good one. We're still getting warmer. ;)
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Stevie Smith was known I think for her light verse, and this one has a nonchalant tone which hides, however, a poignant and desperate situation. So I admire that one.

333. "Break of Day in the Trenches," by Isaac Rosenberg. Another promising poet who was killed in the First World War. Note the lack of any poetic mannerisms in this poem from around 1918.

The darkness crumbles away
It is the same old druid Time as ever,
Only a live thing leaps my hand,
A queer sardonic rat,
As I pull the parapet's poppy
To stick behind my ear.
Droll rat, they would shoot you if they knew
Your cosmopolitan sympathies,
Now you have touched this English hand
You will do the same to a German
Soon, no doubt, if it be your pleasure
To cross the sleeping green between.
It seems you inwardly grin as you pass
Strong eyes, fine limbs, haughty athletes,
Less chanced than you for life,
Bonds to the whims of murder,
Sprawled in the bowels of the earth,
The torn fields of France.
What do you see in our eyes
At the shrieking iron and flame
Hurled through still heavens?
What quaver -what heart aghast?
Poppies whose roots are in men's veins
Drop, and are ever dropping;
But mine in my ear is safe,
Just a little white with the dust.
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Sorry I've been away for a while, but I'm back!
Now, although I don't really like translation of poems, this one reminds me of Gottfried Benn's (the main representative of German Expressionist poetry) poem "Little Aster" ("Kleine Aster"). Here is the translation:

A drowned beer carter was heaved onto the table
Someone or other had clamped a dark light lilac aster
between his teeth.
When, entering from the chest
under the skin
with a long knife I cut out the tongue and palate,
I must have bumped it, for it slid
into the brain lying alongside.
I packed it into his chest-cavity
with the sawdust stuffing
when we sewed up.
Drink your fill in your vase!
Rest in peace
little aster

Rather blatant, I admit. And Benn was a surgeon, soooo........!

I love the line "It is the same old druid Time as ever".
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332. "Piazza Piece," by John Crowe Ransom

-- I am a gentleman in a dustcoat trying
To make you hear. Your ears are soft and small
And listen to an old man not at all,
They want the young men's whispering and sighing.
But see the roses on your trellis dying
And hear the spectral singing of the moon;
For I must have my lovely lady soon,
I am a gentleman in a dustcoat trying.

-- I am a lady young in beauty waiting
Until my truelove comes, and then we kiss.
But what grey man among the vines is this
Whose words are dry and faint as in a dream?
Back from my trellis, Sir, before I scream !
I am a lady young in beauty waiting.
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I have to admit the last two poems posted made me feel dumb. I can't make anything of them other than the make me feel bad.

Edit: I mean the two poems before #332.
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DWill wrote:332. "Piazza Piece," by John Crowe Ransom
I get this one!
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DWill wrote:332. "Piazza Piece," by John Crowe Ransom
I get this one!
Uh-oh, it might be bubble-bursting time, because the next one, no. 331 in our series, is "Gerontion" by T.S. Eliot. I really think Mr. Tulip ought to read this one and you'll see why from this bit from Harmon:
Planned at one time to serve as the prologue to "The Waste Land," "Gerontion" seems to be a cross-section or core-sample of the Western mind since the Persian Wars. This "little old man" in a "dry month" was created by a thirty-year-old poet in May and June of 1919, when there was a record drought in England.


Thou hast nor youth nor age
But as it were an after dinner sleep
Dreaming of both.


HERE I am, an old man in a dry month,
Being read to by a boy, waiting for rain.
I was neither at the hot gates
Nor fought in the warm rain
Nor knee deep in the salt marsh, heaving a cutlass, 5
Bitten by flies, fought.
My house is a decayed house,
And the jew squats on the window sill, the owner,
Spawned in some estaminet of Antwerp,
Blistered in Brussels, patched and peeled in London. 10
The goat coughs at night in the field overhead;
Rocks, moss, stonecrop, iron, merds.
The woman keeps the kitchen, makes tea,
Sneezes at evening, poking the peevish gutter.
I an old man, 15
A dull head among windy spaces.

Signs are taken for wonders. “We would see a sign!”
The word within a word, unable to speak a word,
Swaddled with darkness. In the juvescence of the year
Came Christ the tiger 20
In depraved May, dogwood and chestnut, flowering judas,
To be eaten, to be divided, to be drunk
Among whispers; by Mr. Silvero
With caressing hands, at Limoges
Who walked all night in the next room; 25

By Hakagawa, bowing among the Titians;
By Madame de Tornquist, in the dark room
Shifting the candles; Fräulein von Kulp
Who turned in the hall, one hand on the door. Vacant shuttles
Weave the wind. I have no ghosts, 30
An old man in a draughty house
Under a windy knob.

After such knowledge, what forgiveness? Think now
History has many cunning passages, contrived corridors
And issues, deceives with whispering ambitions, 35
Guides us by vanities. Think now
She gives when our attention is distracted
And what she gives, gives with such supple confusions
That the giving famishes the craving. Gives too late
What’s not believed in, or if still believed, 40
In memory only, reconsidered passion. Gives too soon
Into weak hands, what’s thought can be dispensed with
Till the refusal propagates a fear. Think
Neither fear nor courage saves us. Unnatural vices
Are fathered by our heroism. Virtues 45
Are forced upon us by our impudent crimes.
These tears are shaken from the wrath-bearing tree.

The tiger springs in the new year. Us he devours. Think at last
We have not reached conclusion, when I
Stiffen in a rented house. Think at last 50
I have not made this show purposelessly
And it is not by any concitation
Of the backward devils
I would meet you upon this honestly.
I that was near your heart was removed therefrom 55
To lose beauty in terror, terror in inquisition.
I have lost my passion: why should I need to keep it
Since what is kept must be adulterated?
I have lost my sight, smell, hearing, taste and touch:
How should I use them for your closer contact? 60
These with a thousand small deliberations
Protract the profit of their chilled delirium,
Excite the membrane, when the sense has cooled,
With pungent sauces, multiply variety
In a wilderness of mirrors. What will the spider do, 65
Suspend its operations, will the weevil
Delay? De Bailhache, Fresca, Mrs. Cammel, whirled
Beyond the circuit of the shuddering Bear
In fractured atoms. Gull against the wind, in the windy straits
Of Belle Isle, or running on the Horn, 70
White feathers in the snow, the Gulf claims,
And an old man driven by the Trades
To a sleepy corner.

Tenants of the house,
Thoughts of a dry brain in a dry season. 75
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Bye bye, I hide until the scary Eliot man goes away.
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bleachededen wrote:Bye bye, I hide until the scary Eliot man goes away.
:lol: Not exactly someone you feel you think you want to sit down and have a beer with. I think I have an okay vocabulary, but "estaminet" and "concitation" are unknown to me, and my grammar check squiggles them. Most of the allusions are over my head as well. I think the question with a poem like this is whether we decide we're just not the audience Eliot had in mind--the super-educated and scholarly--and pass him by, or whether we find a footnoted version and fill in our gaps. I can't decide. In "The Waste Land," I find enough true poetry, lines that affect me powerfully regardless of the source Eliot may be "quoting," that I might want to know a little about all the references. In "Gerontion," I don't see poetry, really, except for the beginning and the end and lines here and there, so I don't find myself caring enough to want to understand Eliot's apparently deep philosophy.
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