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Re: Epistemology and Biblical Evidence

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Evidence is evidence and if we are in a discussion where we are going to evaluate evidence then we need a standard so it isn't just me arguing for and you against.
Submit your case according the the federal rules of evidence, I have no problem with that. I wonder why you'd limit yourself in this way. Your other 'evidence' met my criteria, but I doubt it would meet this criteria. Once you submit your evidence and it's valid according to the federal rules of evidence, we'll examine it to see if it supports Claim #1.

So let's have it.
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Nothing?
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Interbane wrote:Nothing?
Patience is one of the 9 fruits of the Holy Spirit.
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My soul is only made of bananas.

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Interbane wrote:My soul is only made of bananas.

:bananadance: :bananadance2: :bananadance: :bananadance2:
Well, at least it doesn't lack

wait for it

wait for it

wait for it

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Da ba dum
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I submit as evidence of the correctness of the Biblical account of Jesus, His life and death on or around 33 AD the following:

From the Jerusalem Talmud:
"Forty years before the destruction of the Temple, the western light went out, the crimson thread remained crimson, and the lot for the Lord always came up in the left hand. They would close the gates of the Temple by night and get up in the morning and find them wide open" (Jacob Neusner, The Yerushalmi, p.156-157). [the Temple was destroyed in 70 CE]

A similar passage in the Babylonian Talmud states:
"Our rabbis taught: During the last forty years before the destruction of the Temple the lot ['For the Lord'] did not come up in the right hand; nor did the crimson-colored strap become white; nor did the western most light shine; and the doors of the Hekel [Temple] would open by themselves" (Soncino version, Yoma 39b).

The Western light was associated with the manifestation of Jesus and is in the position which Jesus is pictured as occupying in Revelation. All of the above indicate that something catastrophic had happened.
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I submit as evidence of the correctness of the Biblical account of Jesus, His life and death on or around 33 AD the following:
Do you have any evidence for the claims of the Talmud?


I'm wondering why you jumped so far ahead. I thought we were very clearly going to discuss the initial claims of Genesis. Maybe even I was too far ahead. Let's back up a step further.

What evidence do you have for this claim: "2 Now the earth was [a] formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters."
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Interbane wrote:
I submit as evidence of the correctness of the Biblical account of Jesus, His life and death on or around 33 AD the following:
Do you have any evidence for the claims of the Talmud?


I'm wondering why you jumped so far ahead. I thought we were very clearly going to discuss the initial claims of Genesis. Maybe even I was too far ahead. Let's back up a step further.

What evidence do you have for this claim: "2 Now the earth was [a] formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters."
The Talmud is submitted as evidence in accordance with the federal rules of evidence and underlying legal theory in support of ancient documents.
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The Talmud is submitted as evidence in accordance with the federal rules of evidence and underlying legal theory in support of ancient documents.
I understand that. They are unsupported claims. Do you have any support for them?
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Interbane wrote:
The Talmud is submitted as evidence in accordance with the federal rules of evidence and underlying legal theory in support of ancient documents.
I understand that. They are unsupported claims. Do you have any support for them?
I suggest that you read the federal rules of evidence and supporting legal theory with respect to ancient documents.
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